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Republicans Decry Heartland Tactics, Call For Scrutiny

Seeded on Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:27 AM EST
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After a recent leak of internal Heartland Institute documents describing a purported campaign to sow doubt about climate change science, Heartland claimed one of the documents might be fake, threatened anyone who even comments on the leak with legal action, and vowed to seek compensation for damage to its reputation.

Such heavy-handed posturing should not dissuade journalists and commentators from thoroughly covering the leaked documents and reporting on the efforts of Heartland and others to manufacture a scientific controversy about climate change where none exists.

Heartland’s moral outrage about leaked documents this past week was glaringly absent following the 2009 release of hacked climate scientists’ e-mails that was dubbed “climategate.”

In fact, it fully participated in a media campaign that misrepresented the e-mails and raised unfounded questions about scientists’ integrity.

Now the shoe is on the other foot, and if the leaked Heartland documents are authentic, they leave no room for interpretation.

Heartland’s strategy, and its reliance on funding from individuals who have a vested interest in undermining climate science, must be brought to the public’s attention to at least the same degree as the so-called “climategate” emails were.

The opinions and knowledge of far too many Americans remain influenced by erroneous reporting about the content of those e-mails.

The Heartland documents detail plans to prevent earnest scientific research and opinions other than their own from gaining public exposure.

They even go so far as to gin up a science curriculum designed to “dissuade” public schoolteachers from teaching science—a shocking plan to undermine education and turn our public schools into mouthpieces for agenda-driven propaganda.

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If any of the released Heartland documents are not authentic, Heartland should be able and willing to provide solid proof. If, as the evidence seems to indicate, the documents are real, the media has an obligation to report on the plans they describe and their troubling implications for a democratic society.

Jim DiPeso
Policy Director
Republicans for Environmental Protection

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Reply#1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:28 AM EST
Door King

They didn't mind when the climategate records were hacked. Weeeeeeep, weeeeeep, weeeeeeep.

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Reply#2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:44 AM EST
Castor Bridge

Retired Physicist, Shouldn't this be moved to politics? You've criticized others for posting inappropriate topics in the science section, and now you are doing the same thing. The only document that has anything controversial at all was a clumsily written fake. I've told you this again and again. Why are you still posting articles that are based on that absurd forged document in the science section?

    Reply#3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:05 PM EST
    Physicist-retired

    Shouldn't this be moved to politics?

    Kind of a judgement call, Castor.

    Heartland's strategy is entirely focused on changing science education, and suppressing certain kinds of scientific research, in this country. And while it's safe to assume that Heartland officers, employees, and donors are primarily members of one political party, no hard information on that exists.

    Maybe Science, maybe Politics, maybe something else. I went with Science. You seem to think Politics would be better. But Heartland is a 'charitable' organization, which isn't supposed to be directly involved in politics. Oops.

    The only document that has anything controversial at all was a clumsily written fake. I've told you this again and again.

    It's now been 6 days since the leak. Heartland could easily prove that the 'Strategy' document really is a fake, simply by releasing the original email, with attachments and timestamp.

    Why haven't they done that?

    Instead, they've taken the time to write and distribute a fundraising letter based on the document - but done nothing to prove that it's a 'fake'. Odd.

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    #3.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:29 PM EST
    Castor Bridge

    They already have proved it to be fake. Fake but accurate is not valid. Never was and never will be. The fact that you (who claims to be a scientist) is claiming that it is valid is interesting. You've been reading too warmist blogs that are just about totally based on fake but accurate to support their positions. Science doesn't work on fake but accurate.

      #3.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:51 PM EST
      Physicist-retired

      They already have proved it to be fake.

      Feel free to post that proof here, Castor.

      • 1 vote
      #3.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:57 PM EST
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      MalamuteMan

      PR,

      Is the authenticity of these documents an open question???

      Also, re this...

      ...manufacture a scientific controversy about climate change where none exists.

      Hmmm... It looks like that t-shirt idea can be a multi-purpose " T "... ;-)

      "Their ain't no controversy!!!"

      • 1 vote
      Reply#4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:36 PM EST
      Physicist-retired

      Mal,

      Heartland says that one of the documents (the most outrageous) is definitely fake, and they'll have to check the others to see if they've been altered.

      They haven't done so yet (it's been 6 days, and the documents just aren't that long), so it does give one pause. And as I pointed out to Castor above, it would be trivial to prove their claims - we're literally talking minutes.

      Yet they haven't done it. Instead, they're doing things like this.

      It looks like that t-shirt idea can be a multi-purpose

      Teach the controversy!

      • 1 vote
      #4.1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:47 PM EST
      MalamuteMan

      Sad but true...

      • 1 vote
      #4.2 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:16 PM EST
      MalamuteMan

      PR,

      Heartland says that one of the documents (the most outrageous) is definitely fake...

      Do they have anything proving their assertion that this one document is a fake???

      Forgive me for putting on my tinfoil hat here... I know this is going to sound like double/triple/quadruple agent paranoia... But do you think there is any chance THEY staged this???

      • 1 vote
      #4.3 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:56 PM EST
      Physicist-retired

      Mal,

      Do they have anything proving their assertion that this one document is a fake???

      If they have such proof, they don't seem to have made it public yet. Even their website contains nothing other than a claim that it is fake - but no proof.

      But do you think there is any chance THEY staged this???

      I really don't. The release of their Donor list is a huge embarrassment. And the documents reveal that deniers like Anthony Watts are getting funding from Heartland. His credibility going forward is completely shot.

      I think this is a nightmare for them. I know that GM, Glaxo, Pepsi, Microsoft, etc. have been getting a lot of emails from angry/disappointed people since this broke. A few companies have already pledged to end support for Heartland.

      No, I don't think they did it. But I do think they'll find out who did. They're really, really ticked.

        #4.4 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:03 PM EST
        MalamuteMan

        Found some good info here... scroll down a bit... and here (referenced in the first piece)...

        • 1 vote
        #4.5 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:22 PM EST
        Physicist-retired

        Good links, Mal - thanks.

        There's been a lot written about those very points on the blogosphere. I actually read an analysis that claimed the Strategy document can't be real because it uses too many commas (I swear I'm not making that up).

        I honestly don't understand why Heartland doesn't provide the one piece of proof that will put this whole thing to rest. Until then, we're left will third-party analyses - which certainly may be right, but how can one be sure?

          #4.6 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:11 AM EST
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